Pizza. It seems easy enough. Except it's not. So many choices . . . which lead to so many debates. Thick v. thin. Tomato sauce v. pesto. Meat or not. Parm cheese or not.

We've even written a pizza book: PIZZA: GRILL IT, BAKE IT, LOVE IT! It's a collection of recipes in which everyone is made for both the grill and the oven. If you want to see that book, you can check it out here.

We're Bruce Weinstein & Mark Scarbrough, authors of thirty-six cookbooks, plus two knitting books (from Bruce), plus a memoir (from Mark), and yet more cookbooks in the works. We're delighted to share our passion about food and cooking with you. Thanks for joining us.

Here are the segments for this episode of COOKING WITH BRUCE & MARK:

[01:03] Our one-minute cooking tip: Ignore the TikTok trend of washing ground beef.

[04:22] The great pizza debate: crust, toppings, origins, the whole thing!

[18:32] What’s making us happy in food this week: sake and fresh-caught tuna.